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    Does ARMA's engine put body armor into the equation of ballistics? I am aware of some bulletproof vests that are close to getting a DoD contract that can stop .308s from 400m?

    It's called Dragon Skin for those who are interested.

    http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin/
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    Re: Body Armor

    No Armor doesn't make a difference in arma

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    • #3
      Re: Body Armor

      Any NIJ certified type III body armor can stop a .308 from 400m - and at much closer ranges too. The inserts for the interceptor vests the army uses, though not given a NIJ rating, are around there while the enhanced inserts can stop a 30-06 armor piercing round.

      Were you not aware of the controversy surrounding USAF testing of Dragon Skin 5 years ago? The USAF claimed the armor failed its tests and Pinnacle apparently lied about their vests being certified to type III prior to certification. It's not a new product. The military didn't want it then, and I haven't read anything that suggests they've recently changing their minds. The armor has since lost its NIJ certification after the DOJ determined that there's not enough evidence that the armor will maintain its level of protection over the warranty period.

      From what I understand, one primary concern with Dragon Skin is that in some cases the plates can fall to the bottom of the vest in hot or cold environments. Think of how the things must be constructed. The individual plates can't have holes in them - that would compromise their integrity - so you can't sew them to the vest. They overlap each other, so you can't sew pockets or quilts in the vest to hold them. So they need to be held together and to the vest by some kind of glue. Sure, there are high temperature glues. But how long will they last under prolonged wear in mixed environments where the adhesive points are being flexed over and over? If those plates fall to the bottom of the vest, that's bad! They may be nice when they're shiny and new out of the box and you strap it to a ballistic gelatin model and shoot it in a lab, but how about out in the field?

      It's also much more expensive than the interceptor armor the army currently uses. And apparently for the same amount of coverage it's just as bulky and heavier.

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      • #4
        Re: Body Armor

        No wonder I hadn't heard anything in a long time about them. Pinnacle Armor filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy last year: http://www.chapter11blog.com/chapter...hapter-11.html

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        • #5
          Re: Body Armor

          Also their armor pretty much took a crap when exposed to diesel fuel which was a massive point against it for military use.
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          • #6
            Re: Body Armor

            Ah. That's why I don't hear anything about that armor.

            I haven't heard about much body armor in the past year so I just used that as an example.
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            We laughed, knowing that better men would come,
            And greater wars; when each proud fighter brags
            He wars on Death, for lives: not men, for flags.

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            • #7
              Re: Body Armor

              In ACE II, 5.56 NATO tends to have a lesser first-shot effect than its slightly bigger brother 7.62 NATO.
              Given the choice in game. I would carry the 7.62.
              However, having 5.56 with 100round magazine is very practical given the limits on gear selection boxes. Leaving more space for grenades or smoke grenades or batteries if there are no backpacks.

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              • #8
                Re: Body Armor

                pfftt who needs 7.62 when you can have 20mm and lots of armor :D

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