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    Hey guys, these are my videos of 4 parts of a radio audio during an Operation from the Vietnam War "Praire Fire". I thought you guys may find this pretty interesting.

    This is a recording of two Recon Teams (RT's) who are in dire straits. Both RT's are loosing a battle wherby death is immenient. Those RT's are: RT Colorado with Pat Mitchel being the 1-0, Lyn St. Laurent as the 1-1, and David "Lurch" Mixter as the 1-3. RT Colorado is an eight man team including the five Indigenous troops. The other was RT Hawaii with Les Dover as the 1-0, Regis Gmitter the 1-1, and John Justice the 1-2 (I believe this to be the case with this recon team as far as who was what on the team through natural progression of skills learned in combat.) May not be accurate though, reader and listener take note. Also, it is unknown to me how many Indigenous Troops made up RT Hawaii at that time.

    RT Colorado is the team that is running for its life. RT Hawaii is holding their own. Both RT's have called out a "Prairie Fire" in Laos near the Ho Chi Minh Trail and are approximately 10 miles apart as the crow flies. Colorado has just been hit by a North Vietnamese platoon of 40 men who desire no more than to wipe this team completely off the face of the Earth.

    During this Prairie Fire, David Mixter is killed when he saves Mitchel's life by shoving him to one side and exchanging fire with an NVA armed with an RPG. Mixter and the NVA exchange fire immediately. The NVA fires his RPG as Mixter fires his weapon. The RPG hits Mixter in the knee area and kills him instantly as the NVA drops dead by Mixter's return Fire.

    1) Plasticman John Plaster's personal call sign while on a RT
    2) White Lead Huey in charge of flying the rescue mission
    3) Delta Papa Three John Plaster's call sign while flying as Covey Rider in Bronco
    4) Tango Papa Pat Mitchels call sign as 1-0
    5) Panthers AH-1G Cobras. Also known as "Cobra"
    6) Kingbees H-34 Helicopters usually flown by Vietnamese pilots
    7) Bravo Hotel Ben Het SF camp
    8) Delta Tango FOB at Dak To
    9) Foxtrot Mike FM radio frequency
    10) Victor VHF radio frequency
    11) Uniform UHF radio frequency
    12) Straw Hat/Type Code name for American personel on a RT
    13) Kilo November Known North. Position is "Kilo November"
    14) Lurch David Mixter's personel call sign
    15) Winchester Air assets that are out of ordnance

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    Part 2:
    Part 3:
    Part 4:

  • #2
    Re: Vietnam War Radio Audio

    Jesus I hope modern comms equipment works better than that!


    • #3
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      Five guys all talking simultaneously, hard to imagine anyone could communicate anything.


      • #4
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        Like Gillipse said. Real world military comms are insane. Then again the HQ has several Radiomen filtering all these. That was very interesting Seiler.


        • #5
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          that comms sounds like our TS and VON channel. Is this where we got our idea from?

          Spartan 4


          • #6
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            Military comms haven't changed much, especially when the poop hits the fan and someone gets into contact.

            It sounds like an old recording, hence the background hiss/hum, but the comm quality itself sounds about right. Leadership comes into play by keeping radio traffic organized and understandable, calming troops down if they talking too fast or not being clear enough. Hierarchy-wise, here's how it is broken down modern day:

            Each fire team leader and squad leader have small short-range radios called iComs (basically walkie-talkies). The quality on these are equatable to Radio Shack walkie talkies except they can be low-level encrypted, although at random times you'll get intense "Donald Duck" squelching where anything from a few words to the entire transmission can be completely garbled and unreadable so we usually kept encryption off... although I'm not sure if that actually solved that problem.

            The squad leader then usually has an MBITR, a bigger "brick"-sized radio that can talk to the RTO's SINGCARS ASIP radio. The ASIP can also be completely encrypted (COMSEC and freq-hopping based on the radio time... if you're a bit off the master time, you won't be able to talk to anyone). The platoon RTO enables communication with the company RTO. If it's a mechanized unit, then if the platoon RTO's on the ground, he'll be talking with one of the Bradleys which has a larger transmit range for its ASIP.

            The company RTO recieves traffic from any platoons out in sector (three line platoons a company in the Army, plus the headquarters platoon). The company sends up pertinent traffic to the battalion RTO. The battalion recieves traffic from all companies, and brigade recieves traffic from all battalions. I assume brigades can talk to division, although I've never been involved in traffic that goes higher than the battalion, so brigade commanders (full bird colonels) may not even bother setting up ASIP comms with division... there's other methods of communications, such as SIPR, mIRC, sat-phones, etc.

            Probably the TOUGHEST people to talk to are CAS pilots. Lots of background noise from the choppers, especially if they're Kiowas, since Kiowas usually run with an open cockpit. Apaches and Blackhawks can be tough to decipher, too.
            Last edited by Gill; 10-12-2009, 12:58 AM.


            • #7
              Re: Vietnam War Radio Audio

              Hard to get, but realy something to think about when you go to war! heh


              • #8
                Re: Vietnam War Radio Audio

                Thats exactly why I have always laughed pretty hard when the discussions about TG comms have gone down the path of "I kept hearing command comms and it made it very hard for me to communicate with my team"....

                In the RL, you can easily have 3-6 and sometimes more different channels on at any one time in your headset and you have been trained and learn to filter the background unless you hear your units callsign, at that moment you tune in and give input as and when required for anything relating to your team.

                Therefore TG comms on VON truly are a walk in the park, compared to most RL scenarios.

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