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    I have been an avid flight sim player since the late 80s. I have been seeing posts about Falcon now for quite some time here. What I have read really interests me. The realism seems pretty good. I like to think I can fly well and want to hear some of your testimony as to whether or not I should get involved.
    I am currently a Junior 1st Officer with Livewire airlines and fly regular passenger flights that are as realistic as to leave from gate to gate with absolute realism down to how many pax on board.. I own a CH flight yoke and pedals so I am no stranger to the gear needed to fly.
    How realistic is the flying here? Why should I spend $XX to fly here? I want to hear the good , the bad, and the ugly.

    Meat Drapes
    Meat Drapes
    -[OIJ]-
    Operation Infinite Justice... the worlds largest clan. Currently enjoying a membership of over 1,454,500+ . We game in every climb and place. If you want to play/become one of us... visit your nearest Armed Forces recruiting station. I bet we have games you have never even heard of. They will be glad to help you.

  • #2
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    If you like to fly very fast, blow things up, then shoot down other aircraft also flying very fast, then you'll probably like this game =)

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    • #3
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      First off, the game is awesome. Secondly, it's free to play here, you just need the game. Oh and I don't know how well flying an f16 with a yoke works but I guess that's up to you.

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      • #4
        Re: Testing the water

        Originally posted by Meat_Drapes
        I have been an avid flight sim player since the late 80s. I have been seeing posts about Falcon now for quite some time here. What I have read really interests me. The realism seems pretty good. I like to think I can fly well and want to hear some of your testimony as to whether or not I should get involved.
        I am currently a Junior 1st Officer with Livewire airlines and fly regular passenger flights that are as realistic as to leave from gate to gate with absolute realism down to how many pax on board.. I own a CH flight yoke and pedals so I am no stranger to the gear needed to fly.
        How realistic is the flying here? Why should I spend $XX to fly here? I want to hear the good , the bad, and the ugly.

        Meat Drapes

        All of the components for immersive simulation are included in this game. From ATC, to AWACS, Intelligence Briefings, realistic flight models and instruments/avionics, and on and on. It really comes down to who you play with. While most of us here at TG are fairly new to Falcon I think most of us are pretty much all around flight sim fans. That makes a big difference I think, because for the most part we are familiar with Airport Operations, Military comms and weapons, etc.

        We're definitely not the hard core bunch you might find at some communities, but it's a good mix of realism and a friendly, welcoming group of guys. We have players of all skill levels and the only requirement we have is that every new TG Falcon pilot take an orientation flight with an Instructor to get the basics on server rules, flight briefings and in-game conduct. We welcome the newbies and the old Vipers with 2000+hrs. and on any given flight you will have a combination of both.

        Those are the pros, as far as the bad and the ugly there isn't a lot. There are some well known bugs, but since Lead Pursuit released Allied Force many of the most frustrating bugs are gone. The network stability is pretty sound, especially if we all follow the server rules here at TG ;) I don't consider it any worse than any other game. At least I don't have a friendly wingman show up as hostile ala BF2. Some people complain of ATC problems, but honestly I think many of the complaints are due to a lack of understading of real Airport ops, but there are occasional valid gripes.

        The biggest hurdle in the game is the learning curve. The sim has the ability to be nearly completely realistic...as far as you want to take it. The more you know about weapons systems, aircraft, AAA, SAMs, Navigation, Flight dynamics, Dog Fighting tactics, etc., the more quickly you will become comfortable when your lead calls out "Bogies, 4 ship, bullseye 163 for 59 angels 23 I've got the lead locked".

        We have four or five instructor pilots here who are more than happy to give any new player as many training sessions as they want to get comfortable. These IPs are not the best Falcon pilots necessarily, but we can give you the basics you need to be able to survive a flight and enjoy the game. From there you can take it as far as you like. Even so far as micro-managing the ground war!

        Lead Pursuit is also backing their product well with one large patch already and another huge patch expected any day now. I strongly urge you to get the game. For $30 it's an incredible value.
        New to TG?

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        • #5
          Re: Testing the water

          I second that this game is great !!!!!!!!

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          • #6
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            I also like spending much time in the FS, falcon I used to try to play since the old amiga times.. I'm still learning.

            Once you get the falcon you might think the flying seems too easy compared to a jet liner, thing is apparently it is in an F-16. However, once you fly through some flak and lose some of those aids for flying you realize actually how realistic the flight dynamics are and how much effort goes to staying in the air let alone landing.

            Fighting world wise, unlike any other game I know there is a real war going on out there. A lot of AI fighting on the ground and in the air, heck you could just sit and the campaign would come to an end.. probably you ending up in losing as the AI performance apparently depends on your performance. The whole allied army looks up to you soldier, so watch your moves out there!

            Now the bad sides IMHO;

            graphics are obviously not the best ones you will get, there are improvements to it like better textures etc, but it still is from the 90's. Don't expect fancy FS9 graphics here.

            There are some other little bugs, like CTD'n time to time, server crashes, certain rules that u need to follow to keep online gaming run smoothly.....AI in the campaign might not always be the smartest of all, and make you wonder but how did they let those guys come through and bomb my base.. However this last one goes for both sides and those kinda things happen in real life aswell so could be a bonus for reality ;)

            some bad or good points depending how you look at them;

            A lot, I mean A LOT of buttons to learn, which comes with the reality, but almost full F16 is recreated here, you'd not find one as close to this in any FS F16s. So actually with the price it has I'd probably buy it as a payware addon to FS.


            An extremely high learning curve, will take you a while to actually be able do anything. A lot of realistic radar modes, air and ground, each weapon has its own way to be aimed and fired to be effective. Staying alive in enemy territory needs a whole lot of knowledge and understanding. You really need to know how to use your wingmen, no more lone wolfing. You either learn to use your wingmen on you end up with pathetic mission results if u ever survive one.

            So conclusion, if you're into some realistic figther/bomber flying in one of the best and possibly only realistically created war athmosphere and willing to spend hours trying to learn and keep on learning. Not get frustrated real quickly and dont mind trying over and over until u get it for the grand prize of actually having a successful efficient mission, and eventually a campaign. You dont mind not having the state of art graphics(trust me you get so much into it graphics are secondary in this game), then buy this game.

            You also talked about gate2gate flying, well in falcon you can have ramp starts 20 mins before the mission time, where you have a cold start-up, you need to set you INS, turn your systems on, get your clearance, taxi, queue for take off, etc.. there are actually other guys taking off to their missoins or landing. The traffic management is better than FS9, you are actually cleared for a quick take off infront of an arriving traffic.. You also have to manage your flight to get to the target on time, not too early not too late, its a coordinated war... You get too early your escort might not have had time to clear the skies, you come too late, enemy might have filled the gap.. same with ground targets, blow a bridge too late and the batallian might have crossed it already.

            Hope this helps

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            • #7
              Re: Testing the water

              Excellent descriptions guys - I have absolutely nothing to add :)
              Jex.

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              • #8
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                Holy Cow! I'm a Livewire pilot, too (but I've been inactive for some time)! One of the things I like about them is that their community is similar to ours at TG - taking things seriously but still having fun, and no set-in-stone time commitments. You'll like it here!
                [volun]

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                • #9
                  Re: Testing the water

                  OK, I am sold. Need to get the game now, what about add-ons?
                  No I will not use my flight yoke... I have a logitec wingman extreme that will come out of retirement. I bet I could use my pedals though.

                  Polish... Livewire has grown ALOT. I have managed to amass a small fortune there with their investment program. I made millions on their stockmarket.
                  Meat Drapes
                  -[OIJ]-
                  Operation Infinite Justice... the worlds largest clan. Currently enjoying a membership of over 1,454,500+ . We game in every climb and place. If you want to play/become one of us... visit your nearest Armed Forces recruiting station. I bet we have games you have never even heard of. They will be glad to help you.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Testing the water

                    Addons,

                    Toms Hightiles are available that up the terrain, it also has seasons.

                    you can also grab new cockpits (stopworks) but they won't be compatible with the next patch so we're waiting to see what happens about that.
                    Jex.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Testing the water

                      Heh, I'll have to log in to Livewire and see how my "investments" are doing. I have all my money tied up in stock. If the place has grown, maybe I'm a millionaire and I just don't know it!

                      Too bad you can't make a real-life withdrawal, huh?
                      [volun]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Testing the water

                        Originally posted by TG_PolishBoogieman
                        Heh, I'll have to log in to Livewire and see how my "investments" are doing. I have all my money tied up in stock. If the place has grown, maybe I'm a millionaire and I just don't know it!

                        Too bad you can't make a real-life withdrawal, huh?
                        Dammit, I was gonna have a little chat wit you about that. What the hell is this place anyway ;)
                        Jex.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Testing the water

                          Livewire is an extremely well thought out virtual airline. You sign up and fly the routes that are appropriate to the rank you hold. Once you acheive the desired amount of flight time , you get promoted and gain access to better routes, bigger planes. You make fake money per flight. You can buy the company stock and gamble.. all kinds of crap. The site is excellent.


                          Now then, the game Falcon 4.0 is the same one that came out in 1998? Made by Microprose? I need to know everything that I need to make my flying as good as it can be.

                          Meat Drapes
                          Meat Drapes
                          -[OIJ]-
                          Operation Infinite Justice... the worlds largest clan. Currently enjoying a membership of over 1,454,500+ . We game in every climb and place. If you want to play/become one of us... visit your nearest Armed Forces recruiting station. I bet we have games you have never even heard of. They will be glad to help you.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Testing the water

                            Yep it's the same game, pretty much.
                            Jex.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Testing the water

                              Originally posted by Meat_Drapes
                              Livewire is an extremely well thought out virtual airline. You sign up and fly the routes that are appropriate to the rank you hold. Once you acheive the desired amount of flight time , you get promoted and gain access to better routes, bigger planes. You make fake money per flight. You can buy the company stock and gamble.. all kinds of crap. The site is excellent.


                              Now then, the game Falcon 4.0 is the same one that came out in 1998? Made by Microprose? I need to know everything that I need to make my flying as good as it can be.

                              Meat Drapes
                              Yes, but you need to get "Falcon 4: Allied Force" from www.lead-pusuit.com (or Amazon, etc.) in order to play here at TG.
                              New to TG?

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