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  • TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

    I have opened up this thread as a container for TG United Nations videos.
    With the cooperation of [TG-3rd] BSweet-ToothB and Downtown_Two2 I made the following example of the TG-UN "style".

    My strategy failed in this instance, as it was contingent on the rest of the team quickly eliminating A M-COM.

    Nonetheless, Sweet_Tooth and Downtown excelled in discipline and teamwork.

    Thanks guys!

    Best viewed in HD 1080p
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    Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

    Very good video! Using smoke to approach an M-Com is the best way to get your troops in close with out getting fired on. All that open space is just plain sniper heaven and if you can deny them firing and spotting on you, you should be able to get close enough to arm the M-Coms. Only drawback is smoke also obscures enemy that are in the area, so who ever is quicker on the trigger finger will prevail. Comms is essential in this exercise to achieve the objective. Other teams should be able to ascertain your intentions and provide support. If they fail to do this then your efforts will be for naught!

    Saw plenty of smoking going on last night! You must have been around!

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    • #3
      Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

      The suspense is killing me! Did you ever get B?
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      • #4
        Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

        No we didn't get the mcom.

        Some contructive critism though:

        Smoke is an excellent tool but you need to use it to push and give yourself cover over open ground. The key here is to cover movement, I saw lots of smoke but not any pushing. How long did the three of you sit there and not even fire a round at the enemy? I think it would have been more beneficial to the team if you used the smoke to cover your crossing of the road and got into good firing position to cover the arming of the mcom personally.

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        • #5
          Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

          Originally posted by general_alvin View Post
          The suspense is killing me! Did you ever get B?
          No we didnt.

          MY OPINION:
          All the smoke is fine and dandy but the team needs to push on the MCOM. Having a squad of 4 hang back and lay down smoke is not really helping the team. That couldve been done by 1 or maybe 2 people while the rest of the squad actually attacked the MCOM.

          I deserve a ribbon for Mortar Specialist

          Artillery conquers and infantry occupies.
          J.F.C. Fuller

          Proud to have been a member of the 5th, 71st and my beloved 19th

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          • #6
            Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

            Hmm... I agree that the play is situational if the rest of the team or atleast another squad will take advantage of the smoke cover to advance (in regard to the first 2~ mins of the vid). I would also like to point out that from the very left side there is a spot where a sniper can easily take all 3 of you out (its a small crater near the pipes and the rocks where one of your squad members went to) where the smoke doesn't seem to be at...



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            • #7
              Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

              I fully support squad based comms and a concrete command structure. It's great that you were able to command two squad members to keep smoking a target. It shows just how disciplined TG members are.

              That being said, that was a total waste of a squad. You accomplished nothing.

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              • #8
                Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                I agree with bleeding, and a problem that I see with your tactical smoking is that you like to use a seperate ts channel, if you are gonna sit back and smoke for your team then you need to ask the rest of your team where they want the smoke. otherwise you are most likely hindering your team.


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                • #9
                  Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                  Damn specterr beat me to it.
                  :)
                  Last edited by HiTest; 02-10-2011, 05:22 PM.

                  I deserve a ribbon for Mortar Specialist

                  Artillery conquers and infantry occupies.
                  J.F.C. Fuller

                  Proud to have been a member of the 5th, 71st and my beloved 19th

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                  • #10
                    Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                    It is so easy to second guess a play...

                    Had we pushed forward, we almost certainly would have been wiped out, only hastening the ticket bleed. Yes, there was much that could have been done otherwise. What we did, we did well. The rest was up to the rest of the team.

                    It was not merely a squad of 4 hanging back. It was a squad of three (the fourth was not TG and not in comms, -- in my squad but not under my control...) that executed a fine advance.

                    We were in an advanced position and stayed in that position until we had sufficient support from the rest of the team to move forward.

                    Say what you will, even the best of strategies does not guarantee success.

                    Amazing the amount of assumptions implicit in the criticism that assume foreknowledge of what would have happened had we acted differently.

                    Anyway, this is ONE of the ways I play. If you do not like it, don't join my squad.
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                    • #11
                      Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                      Originally posted by OldGunney View Post
                      Only drawback is smoke also obscures enemy that are in the area, so who ever is quicker on the trigger finger will prevail. Comms is essential in this exercise to achieve the objective. Other teams should be able to ascertain your intentions and provide support. If they fail to do this then your efforts will be for naught!

                      Saw plenty of smoking going on last night! You must have been around!
                      Indeed. My strategy was to hold position and draw the enemy's fire and energies in our direction, to take pressure off of the assault of A M-COM, and then unleash my men to attack B with the rest of the team when the force ratio was in our favour.

                      I'll try the the same again, and again, one test of a strategy is not enough.

                      As to intentions and the team, I did (more than once last night) use chat to tell the team what we were up to, and will continue to do so.

                      All good points you raise OldGunny -- thanks!
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                      • #12
                        Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                        Originally posted by E-Male View Post
                        It is so easy to second guess a play...

                        Had we pushed forward, we almost certainly would have been wiped out, only hastening the ticket bleed. Yes, there was much that could have been done otherwise. What we did, we did well. The rest was up to the rest of the team.

                        It was not merely a squad of 4 hanging back. It was a squad of three (the fourth was not TG and not in comms, -- in my squad but not under my control...) that executed a fine advance.

                        We were in an advanced position and stayed in that position until we had sufficient support from the rest of the team to move forward.

                        Say what you will, even the best of strategies does not guarantee success.

                        Amazing the amount of assumptions implicit in the criticism that assume foreknowledge of what would have happened had we acted differently.

                        Anyway, this is ONE of the ways I play. If you do not like it, don't join my squad.
                        Way to take some constructive criticism. (??)

                        I deserve a ribbon for Mortar Specialist

                        Artillery conquers and infantry occupies.
                        J.F.C. Fuller

                        Proud to have been a member of the 5th, 71st and my beloved 19th

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                        • #13
                          Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                          Originally posted by E-Male View Post
                          Indeed. My strategy was to hold position and draw the enemy's fire and energies in our direction, to take pressure off of the assault of A M-COM, and then unleash my men to attack B with the rest of the team when the force ratio was in our favour.
                          Maybe you should let the team know about your strategy on that map. I did not see one mention of that in team chat. Maybe i missed it since i was too busy getting slaughtered on the MCOM.

                          I deserve a ribbon for Mortar Specialist

                          Artillery conquers and infantry occupies.
                          J.F.C. Fuller

                          Proud to have been a member of the 5th, 71st and my beloved 19th

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                          • #14
                            Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                            Originally posted by HiTestFest View Post
                            Way to take some constructive criticism. (??)
                            Oh I certainly welcome the feedback. It is the assumptions I am referring to. Feedback based on assumptions is little more than armchair squad leading.

                            I was going over this fight last night and thought I might have shifted my squad to the left to support the assault on A, but one can debate about changing horses in mid race.

                            Criticism that runs along the lines of formulating a if this then that alternative is mere fanciful thinking. There is simply no way to forecast the outcome of alternative actions, and criticism based on such forecast is too speculative to be of much use.
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                            • #15
                              Re: TG-UN Videos (Bad Company 2)

                              Originally posted by HiTestFest View Post
                              Maybe you should let the team know about your strategy on that map. I did not see one mention of that in team chat. Maybe i missed it since i was too busy getting slaughtered on the MCOM.
                              As noted above. I did use team chat as suggested. Yes, I could have popped up to talk to the team, and will see about getting key binds to facilitate doing so.

                              Work on getting slaughtered less and doing more of the slaughtering ... :-)

                              It is noteworthy that there is no RUSH to acquire targets, as there is no timer, only a ticket count.

                              We should be attacking with much greater care not to die. Form a more solid front, establish communication lines and coordinate strategies, and then apply a full force ratio.

                              As it is, people rush in and die with great speed and repetition (and here I do not mean YOU in particular, just expanding on a thought here...) and so reduce the amount of time/tickets to bring coordination and strategy, communication and cross squad teamwork to the task.

                              There is a better way.
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