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  • The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

    So first, let's get everyone on the same page. The 8 v 8 vehicle agreement is an agreement that until there are 16 total players, 8 on each side, armor will not be used.

    Common sense and straightforward, right?

    But what needs reminding is that this is just an agreement, as in, this will not be enforced by admins as it is not a rule on the TG server. On the TG server, one is allowed to use a vehicle at any time, as long as it is in an appropriate manner and is in accordance with the server rules.

    If the players seeding the server decide not to use vehicles until more people join, this is perfectly fine. But remember, if someone doesn't follow this agreement, they are not technically "wrong." Not everyone will follow such an agreement, whether because they don't want to, they didn't know, or they didn't see that a no vehicles agreement was in effect.

    A simple, "Hey, we're not going to use vehicles until 8 v 8," is a gentle, friendly reminder and often, players will not use vehicles. However, not everyone will follow this. They are not breaking any rules by doing so.

    In the event that someone doesn't play by the 8v8 agreement, typing at them, complaining, or ranting will not stop them. There is no reason to be negative just because someone won't get out of a tank. Don't let it get you into a tizzy, just play the game.

    In summary: an 8v8 (or any number) vehicle agreement is not a sever rule or policy. Remember that as a TG tagged member, everything you do reflects back on TG and conduct yourself accordingly.


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    I think a good bump is in order! :D

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    • #3
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      I honestly didn't even know this agreement existed :icon_lol: When did this come about?

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      • #4
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        2142 I think
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        • #5
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          Not fond of it but I go with the flow in the server if I choose to stay and that is how people want to play. I thought it was 4vs4 but seems I was mistaken. A few weeks ago while seeding this came up and when we finally hit the magic number people started using vehicles. Well a little bit later the player count dropped some more and a lot of comments started to fly. So I got out of my tank and ran off to do something else... and found a new server not long after because I did not appreciate some of the comments I received. I guess my misunderstanding of the magic number lead to that.

          I am all for good sportsmanship but Battlefield is about vehicles. I thought 4vs4 was bad but having to have the server half full is absurd. When the server is small most people just ask that we pick a flag to fight over IF all people in the server agree which makes sense... but vehicles are a whole other thing. Just my opinion.
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          • #6
            Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

            I'm not familiar with this. What is the 8 vs. 8 vehicle agreement?
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            • #7
              Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

              Originally posted by [tR]Greasy_mullet View Post
              Not fond of it but I go with the flow in the server if I choose to stay and that is how people want to play. I thought it was 4vs4 but seems I was mistaken. A few weeks ago while seeding this came up and when we finally hit the magic number people started using vehicles. Well a little bit later the player count dropped some more and a lot of comments started to fly. So I got out of my tank and ran off to do something else... and found a new server not long after because I did not appreciate some of the comments I received. I guess my misunderstanding of the magic number lead to that.

              I am all for good sportsmanship but Battlefield is about vehicles. I thought 4vs4 was bad but having to have the server half full is absurd. When the server is small most people just ask that we pick a flag to fight over IF all people in the server agree which makes sense... but vehicles are a whole other thing. Just my opinion.
              If a player behaves like this, feel free to PM me or any other admin, or create a CAA thread. I don't care what the situation is, players need to keep it mature and polite on the server.

              It's an agreement, not a blood-oath.

              Originally posted by LadiesMan281 View Post
              I'm not familiar with this. What is the 8 vs. 8 vehicle agreement?
              Basically, when there is low population on the server, we suggest that players do not use vehicles until the teams are 8 vs 8. This usually allows for the server to fill up easier, and for some of the maps to play better with the smaller numbers.

              It's just an agreement, and nobody "has" to agree to it. It's usually a nice thing to do, though.
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              • #8
                Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                I agree w/ greasy... no vehicles until 9vs9 seems silly to me. :)

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                • #9
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                  I could write a long reply to why I'm against using tanks when servers aren't populated enough but everyone has their own opinion.

                  If you guys tell me how to kill the bradley without our whole team dying in the process then I might reconsider, but then again, I can show you why that's not possible.
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                  • #10
                    Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                    The "agreement" is very easy to abide by when there are only TG folks on the server. These rounds can be quite fun I think as you're seeding the server. Playing with mines, going only sniper, lighting each other up with tracers. Then some non-TG person joins and starts killing and playing for real, or using vehicles.

                    I'm surprised someone was (evidently) complaining about breaking this agreement, as it's obviously not part of the standard server rules.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                      I'm really surprised you got that reaction Greasy, I'm sorry to hear that.

                      Personally, I don't think the 8v8 vehicle agreement is necessary in conquest maps when both sides are on a level playing field. In Rush mode, the agreement makes sense because there are many Rush maps where only the Attackers have access to vehicles. Dealing with vehicles when you only have 5 or 6 players on your side is very hard because you're forced to commit the majority of your team to anti-vehicle and ignoreother roles such as medic and recon. Combine the edge that vehicles give Attackers with the fact that a low player count already skews the balance in favor of the Attackers (because 75 tickets per stage is balanced for 16v16, not 6v6) and you will often see Attackers rolling through Defenders way too easily. This can lead to frustration and people leaving which is the last thing you want when you're trying to seed the server.
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                      • #12
                        Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                        Originally posted by Phoenix. View Post
                        If you guys tell me how to kill the bradley without our whole team dying in the process then I might reconsider, but then again, I can show you why that's not possible.
                        Couple of C4s from one person ought to do the trick.

                        But i do agree with the mullet, pretty silly set of conditions.
                        Last edited by HiTest; 06-14-2011, 11:14 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                          It isn't a rule. It's a set of conditions that those on the server can choose to partake in.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                            Usually it helps in getting the server seeded. If people want to dogfight with choppers or play some with a tank, that's fine.

                            But when you're defending on say Valparaiso and have an APC shooting from the front and a Blackhawk behind, people tend to drop out after getting killed ten times in a row. Especially as the offense won't be losing tickets quickly and after a while all the cover's gone for the defenders.

                            So I don't get all outraged if someone uses a vehicle - but I also don't feel an obligation to stick around the server for an hour just to wait to respawn repeatedly.

                            It's simple actions and consequences. You annoy and dominate people enough, especially if they feel that you're violating some gentleman's (and lady's) agreement - they will leave.

                            You might be in the right, you might not be breaking any rules, but you might also find that it'll take another hour before the server starts to get populated again.

                            Fortunately this is rare, but it does happen.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The 8 vs. 8 Vehicle Agrement: A Reminder

                              Love TG and normally have a good time and get along with everybody but that was just a bad day I guess and I like I said I did not know the threshold. I went to play elsewhere that day but normally always try to play at TG first. No big deal to me unless it becomes a common occurrence but I seriously doubt that would happen as most of us are here for the same reason and have come to know each other.
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