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    Maybe it's because we've got a shiny new toy, but the (obvious) tactics for CT's seem to be getting overlooked.

    When the VIP has a large escort, they need to remain in the middle of the pack. You can't guarantee that the T's won't hit from behind. More than ever, it's critical that someone is constantly watching the teams six.

    Whoever's on point needs to be far enough ahead of the next man, that there's plenty of buffer zone between them and the team. When the point man engages targets, the rest of the team shouldn't be worrying about the safety of that team member. Use the time to move the VIP in any direction that's away from the fighting.

    When you get close to the EP, put the VIP somewhere safe, get in fast and secure the area. Then call the VIP in, who will run straight for the EP *without* stopping to shoot at any T's.
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    Re: Protect the VIP

    basically, from what i've seen, is that once you are within a 100 metre distance from the EP, just whip in as many smokes as possible around the EP, and just cover outside the smoke, to give the VIP time, to run to victory

    i have to see how well that strategy works next time things happen up on server 2


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    • #3
      Re: Protect the VIP

      Originally posted by radicaldreamer
      basically, from what i've seen, is that once you are within a 100 metre distance from the EP, just whip in as many smokes as possible around the EP, and just cover outside the smoke, to give the VIP time, to run to victory

      i have to see how well that strategy works next time things happen up on server 2
      That works fine against bots, but against other players, it may well be different. Remember that a team of bots don't communicate. Don't plan on making use of the VIP's armor (or their gun for that matter).
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      • #4
        Re: Protect the VIP

        Originally posted by Root
        Don't plan on making use of the VIP's armor (or their gun for that matter).
        that's not exactly what i was meaning, maybe i should start over...lol

        first, someone who has a scoped weapon, or a good long-ranged gun in general, scouts out the area where the EP is, and take out any nearby hostiles

        once it's clear, get a few smokes in there, then flash the EP point, then around the EP, as is corners, walls, etc.

        have the VIP in the middle, and have the protection like a square around the VIP, and escort the VIP to the EP


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        • #5
          Re: Protect the VIP

          The para may in fact become useful in CS:S, largely as a deterrent to that tactic :P

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          • #6
            Re: Protect the VIP

            Originally posted by radicaldreamer
            first, someone who has a scoped weapon, or a good long-ranged gun in general, scouts out the area where the EP is, and take out any nearby hostiles

            once it's clear, get a few smokes in there, then flash the EP point, then around the EP, as is corners, walls, etc.

            have the VIP in the middle, and have the protection like a square around the VIP, and escort the VIP to the EP
            That sounds like a plan. The trick is definitely for the CT's to be bullet magnets, because an AWP round to the head can kill the VIP outright. We've set the mod to use the scout instead of the AWP, but we shouldn't ever be testing the limits of the VIP's armor unless the rest of the team are dead.
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            • #7
              Re: Protect the VIP

              Originally posted by Karkianman101
              The para may in fact become useful in CS:S, largely as a deterrent to that tactic :P
              The VIP mod restricts a number of weapons. The CT's are unable to buy the MP5, I believe no-one can buy shotguns, and I'm pretty certain that the GPMG is also unavailable.
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              • #8
                Re: Protect the VIP

                figured i just throw this out there....this was taken off the IRC channel tonight.

                "T**F***X--It's funny when root's the VIP because you have this internal struggle whether or not you actually would take a bullet for him."


                now im not going to say i dint laugh, cause i did, so did others. This persons name was concealed to protect TheFeniX
                that sounds like a good idea trooper.
                -Vulcan

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                • #9
                  Re: Protect the VIP

                  Originally posted by Root
                  The VIP mod restricts a number of weapons. The CT's are unable to buy the MP5, I believe no-one can buy shotguns, and I'm pretty certain that the GPMG is also unavailable.
                  Can't buy....
                  MP5, P90, M249, Autosnipers, AWP, Krieg (possibly AUG too), no scouts for CTs... and I didn't even test everything.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Protect the VIP

                    Meat shields ftw! Depending on your distance to the EP, it might be a good idea to have the VIP under cover, then have all the CTs whip out every nade they can get their hands on at and around the EP, then while the Ts tentatively wonder if its safe to come out, all of the CTs run in spraying covering fire while the VIP runs to the EP. This would probably work best with clock coordination.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Protect the VIP

                      Well, if you want to go presidential with it, at minimum distance to ep, whip out every nade you can, then have the entire team run out in a group with the VIP in the middle surrounded by CT's. No shooting or stopping, the CT's literally there to do nothing but absorb bullets for the final dash. 'Course would work better if the VIP could crouch walk at running speed (like you always see these kind of extractions done in movies, VIP ducking and running in a group of standing SS men) because when they're all standing somebody at elevation has an angle for a HS. The key obviously would be the smokes/flashes. Running out into a group of T's waiting with guns aiming for you is suicide. But, in a situation where the CT's are outgunned/outnumbered, trying to secure the EP might not be a viable option, and this sort of random chaos approach might have a better effect.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Protect the VIP

                        Originally posted by poe
                        Can't buy....
                        MP5, P90, M249, Autosnipers, AWP, Krieg (possibly AUG too), no scouts for CTs... and I didn't even test everything.
                        Why are these restited
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                        • #13
                          Re: Protect the VIP

                          comes with the mod, i suppose, i mean...the admins didn't restrict those, so i assume it's the mod


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                          • #14
                            Re: Protect the VIP

                            Would it make it more tactical if the speed of the VIP was reduced? I mean, a hostage shouldn't be able to run as fast as a trained CT, and then that would make the CT's have to think of the slower moving VIP and cover him.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Protect the VIP

                              Originally posted by black death5
                              Would it make it more tactical if the speed of the VIP was reduced? I mean, a hostage shouldn't be able to run as fast as a trained CT, and then that would make the CT's have to think of the slower moving VIP and cover him.
                              oh come on, anybody who was being chased by terrorists would be running pretty damn fast, if not faster, don't you think? :)


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