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    Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Texas Rangers-Oakland game turns ugly when player hurls chair at fans

    By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
    September 14, 2004

    AP - Sep 14, 2:07 am EDT
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    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Texas reliever Frank Francisco threw a chair into the right field box seats, hitting two spectators in the head Monday night, as Oakland Athletics fans taunted the visitors after a two-out, top-of-the-ninth homer tied the game.

    One of the fans, an unidentified woman, was bloodied and her nose was broken.

    Major league baseball's commissioner's office said Tuesday morning it was investigating.

    With two outs in the ninth, Texas Ranger Alfonso Soriano tied the game at 5 on his second homer of the night. Moments later, with the Rangers' Hank Blalock at the plate, the Texas bench and bullpen cleared.

    ``Tonight, it went over the line,'' Rangers manager Buck Showalter said. ``It was a real break from the normal trash you hear from fans. We've had problems about every time we've come here.''

    Texas reliever Doug Brocail was seen screaming at a male fan, and the pitcher had to be restrained by his teammates and bullpen coach Mark Connor. Others also had to be held back.

    Francisco threw the chair at a fan in a lower box near the Rangers' bullpen along the right-field line. The chair hit one man in the head, then bounced and struck the woman on her left temple.

    Security ran to the scene and a small section of fans was cleared from their seats.

    A's manager Ken Macha came across the field to speak to Dave Rinetti, vice president of stadium operations, before play resumed 19 minutes later.

    There was talk between the umpires and managers of suspending the game, clearing the stands and forfeiting the game.

    The Athletics won 7-6 in the 10th inning.

    Rinetti said afterward that the woman was being treated at a hospital for facial cuts and a broken nose and was considering pressing charges. Francisco was escorted by police out an alternate stadium exit after the game and into a car waiting on the field. No arrests were made.

    Brocail declined comment, and Francisco wasn't around the locker room afterward.

    Francisco, 25, was named American League rookie of the month for August, when he was 3-0 with a 1.69 earned-run average.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Burn him. Charge him criminally and then let the civil suit destroy his life. Brawl on the field? Cool. Throwing chairs at fans that are jeering you? No excuse.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    well is he's charged in CA at least he'll get a totally incompetent DA and a CA jury working for him.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    there iss not excuse for this kind of behavior, he should not only be charged but imediatly fired for this reckless endangerment.

    and i think a broken nose plus facial cuts is borderline actual bodily harm to grevious bodlily harm.


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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Good Throw The Book At Him. (excusing The Pun)


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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    While this player should be punished for his acts, I would have to lay some of the blame on the stadium (or who ever runs it) and the fans. The fans shouldn't be heckling the players in the bullpen and security should be keeping the fans back. The player is at fault too and should be punished but there have been other incidents where the fans are starting the problems because they can get away with it. The problem is bigger than just this player.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    If the player can't take taunting they shouldn't be playing. Just because someone says something that hurts their feelings doesn't excuse their actions. Just because they play a child's game doesn't mean they can act like children.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Quote Originally Posted by wickerman
    If the player can't take taunting they shouldn't be playing. Just because someone says something that hurts their feelings doesn't excuse their actions. Just because they play a child's game doesn't mean they can act like children.
    They not only play play a childs game, they get paid millions to do it.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    they get paid millions to do it
    Even more reason they should control themselves

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Quote Originally Posted by asch
    While this player should be punished for his acts, I would have to lay some of the blame on the stadium (or who ever runs it) and the fans. The fans shouldn't be heckling the players in the bullpen and security should be keeping the fans back. The player is at fault too and should be punished but there have been other incidents where the fans are starting the problems because they can get away with it. The problem is bigger than just this player.

    i disagree sports players have to realise one thing, the reason they are being paid millions is because of those fans in the stadium and watching the television. niether audience wishes to see this kind of thanks for the effort.

    he has commied a crime, plain and simple and it should not matter that the fans were heckling. if you were being verbally harrassed in the street and lashed out with a weapon, you would be charged and made pay for your actions.


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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    You can yell at me all day long and I'll even take a solid shot in the nuts every once in a while for the cash those fools are knocking down.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    you could kick me in the face on a daily basis for their wages


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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    you could call my mother a whore, kick my dog, short out my mobo, tie my shoe laces together and put a "kick me" sign on my back for that much money.

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    Re: Carnac The Magnificient sees a lawsuit in your future, Mr. Fancisco

    Quote Originally Posted by asch
    While this player should be punished for his acts, I would have to lay some of the blame on the stadium (or who ever runs it) and the fans. The fans shouldn't be heckling the players in the bullpen and security should be keeping the fans back.
    No way... Heckling the visiting team is an integral part of baseball!

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