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    Fox News

    I know you hear all the jokes etc, but I've never seen Fox, please tell me this is a rare thing.....

    http://blugg.com/stuff/foxs_view_of_the_bbc_player.htm

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    That guy is a real reporter- this guy is giving his 2 cents, not so much as reporting news.

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    that is absolutly crap.

    i am a British citizen on a politics course so i have followed this affair in much detail.

    first off i would like to say that your reporter for fox needs to be fired the same way our guy did. giving all that patriotic crap. flags in lappells and how we are soo bad at reporting. let me just put this into perspective.

    the BBC during the entire course of the war only allowed 2% of its entire news footage to be anti war or anything that questioned the war. the other 98% was all war footage and pro troops etc etc.

    second, there was no such reporting by the reporter in question which said that the iraqis were heroically holding up. that i am afraid is a lie from the fox reporter. the only thing that was said around all of our news networks was that the iraqis had surprised our forces but holding out in places like basra and bagdad as long as they did.

    nothing of the sort was said about heroism.

    as for the david kelly thing that your reporter brushed over, this was not the bbc reporters fault as a whole, David Kelly was a scientist looking at the chemical wepaons and weapons of mass destruction. he aparantly made a mistake in his report and adeded a peice of work that wasnt his own. which seemed to sex up the dossier. he broke the British civil servernts code of silence about anything that goes on in parliament,

    this is where he told the reporter about goings on in the ministry of defence. he had to gop before a standing commitee and parliament was going to ask some tough questions.. which would have led to alot of har times for him. he killed himself.

    the reporter did report what he was told, and as a result our government tooke them up and ordered an inquiry into what was said. to which the Hutton report found that the BBC editorial system had failed on this occasiuon.

    what your reporter says also is that the british governemnt held and investigation.,. incorrect, although the inquiary was called by the government. the enquiry was totally independent of any ministerial preassure. it was Lord Hutton who held the enquiry a very well respected Lord. and his findings were independent of the legeslative.

    teel me about it benny.

    i also want to say that i live here and i watched all the news channels and at no point during the war was the BBC or any other news reporting teams anti american, however it seems that the fox reporter has some serious security issues feeling the need to blaim the British at every point possible.

    GET OVER IT MATE

    jesus. i have to say that i felt our reporting had taken a blow but if that is infact standard reporting in America. man it is sad, comercialised reporting.

    P.S why do we have to be pro american, i feel i must raise this issue, there was alot of oposition to the war over here aswell as alot of support. we had about half and half in favor or against, and the commons vote that decided if we would go to war or not decided narrowly that we would.

    but why must we be pro american, we are not american and our reporting is therefore independent of that fact. this is one instance where someone possibly exadurated the truth but not all Brits are totally convinced he did. but irreguardless of what your reporter says we still have a highly respectable repoting system which in my opinion can report anything it wants unless it is and untruth.

    the fox reporter was highly anti British, so why must we be por american. seems like a flawed argument, does he expect every country in the world to love america and praise it for all its glory. pretty stupid if he does.

    lousy peice of reporting on the whole,


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    Quote Originally Posted by =luna=
    That guy is a real reporter- this guy is giving his 2 cents, not so much as reporting news.
    that is not the job of a reporter and is the reason why Andrew guilligan got into trouble.

    the idea of reporting the news is to do so in a non biased way to inform people of the situation and allow themselfes to come up with their own conclusions..

    damn Luna do you want burger king to chew the burger before you eat it.

    i understand that you dont know the whole story only someone living here would but you have been given about 10% of the information with 90% patriotic crap piled in on top to praise their own network.

    it was 2 minutes compiled of 3 seconds reporting and the rest advertisement to keep watching our network.

    terrible.

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    I absolutely never said I agreed with the guy, or that I was under the impression that I was watching something factual. I was simply saying that he is only one guy giving his (terribly flawed) opinion, and was not a fair representation of american journalism as a whole. My apologies for not being clear.

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    Theres a local Fox News station where I live. I'm a bit south of the 'Twin Cities'. It's a relatively new News station, maybe a year or two old... compared to the others in the area which are like 50+ years old =p
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    Let's clarify something. This guy was not reporting news. The spot was called "My Turn" which obviously indicated that the guy was about to spout his personal opinion. Reporting is not always about hard facts, stories are made by the questions that are asked. Evidence this by the differences between Fox News or BBC and CNN. Reporting always has bias. Fox News is very good about providing "hard news" (facts) and "news analysis" (opinions) and keeping them seperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CingularDuality
    Let's clarify something. This guy was not reporting news. The spot was called "My Turn" which obviously indicated that the guy was about to spout his personal opinion. Reporting is not always about hard facts, stories are made by the questions that are asked. Evidence this by the differences between Fox News or BBC and CNN. Reporting always has bias. Fox News is very good about providing "hard news" (facts) and "news analysis" (opinions) and keeping them seperate.
    Yea, what he said =p
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    Quote Originally Posted by =luna=
    was not a fair representation of american journalism as a whole.
    Indeed. Most American journalists refuse to keep their opinions seperate from factual reporting... Just watch NBC, ABC, CBS or CNN... Read the New York Times... Listen to NPR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CingularDuality
    Quote Originally Posted by =luna=
    was not a fair representation of american journalism as a whole.
    Indeed. Most American journalists refuse to keep their opinions seperate from factual reporting... Just watch NBC, ABC, CBS or CNN... Read the New York Times... Listen to NPR...
    gag me with a spoon...

    Fox keeps their spin and news separate?



    the only thing fox is good at is sensationalizing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr1j0l3
    Fox keeps their spin and news separate?
    Absolutely.

    Just because you don't like the way they "spin", doesn't mean that they mix their opinions in with their hard news...

    Tough to be objective when the "other side" has such an inherently good thing going, huh?

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    I've heard it before "Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation"

    Fox has a conservative slant, okay more so than other cable news. Personally I find it refreshing to see diverse points of view.

    The other networks/cable news shows don't challenge themsleves like Fox does IMO. Where else can you see Russell Simons face off with Bill O'Reilly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USN_Squid
    Fox has a conservative slant, okay more so than other cable news. Personally I find it refreshing to see diverse points of view.
    Yes, Fox's new analysis, although having both liberals and conservatives, is decidedly biased towards the conservative viewpoint. It could be argued that they're doing it to counter the liberal bias that most of the rest of American media has (which will give them market share if half the nation is conservative...).

    And it's working: Fox News is taking the network news industry by storm. 2 years ago, the only 24hr news channel that you'd see was CNN. Now, thankfully, I see FoxNews on the TVs at all the local delis and restaurants that I go to for lunch...

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    first off cingular the fox reporter whether giving his two cents or not has no right to critisize the reporting of another journalist or journalist organisation if all he is doing is souting patriotic crap.

    it is infact crap.

    the fact that fox has a my turn slot just illustrates the perthetic useof their time. allowing some stupid jumped up guy come on and bad mouth the British journalism and at the same time complain about the BBC about being anti american.

    well screw you mate, this is England and if we dont agree with your views in the states then we aint gonna tread carefully around you we are gonna bloody tell ya. i certainly aint gonna hold my toungue just because i would be critisising the americans. what are every county in the world supposed to be scaered and shut up... not on my watch mate.... <<< directed at thet tart on fox news not you cinq.

    and as for squid, you obviously know about as much as a dislexic 97 year old blind death old granny in iceland about the BBC, despite what the tart on the fox network says, the BBC is still one... i repeat one of our respected networks... yes we are a small island but we have about 8-15 different news teams around England alonehten you have wales ansd scotland.

    the baghdad comment ... i dont think so, as i have pointed out this was one unfortunate affair which was involving one reporter, and as i have pointed out also during the conflict only 2% of footage was anti war in |ENgland.. which the BBC are being critisized for bewcause in England,(seemingly Unlike the states) we expect to hear the news with as small a bias stance as possible to collect information and form our individual ideas about the content.

    to Luna, reviewing your post i see the sarchasm and i am deeply embarressed as it was infact quite clear.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeMan
    first off cingular the fox reporter whether giving his two cents or not has no right to critisize the reporting of another journalist or journalist organisation if all he is doing is souting patriotic crap.

    it is infact crap.
    Why doesn't he have the right to criticize another journalist? BBC is not the holy grail of news reporting and their reporters are not immune to criticism. Hell, if FoxNews has no right to criticize BBC and its reporters, then BBC has no right to criticize the US.....

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