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    Im loosing sleep.

    Here is why, and its bothering the hell out of me.

    Last saturday I was riding my motorcycle (BTW I'm glad I went with the 750!) and saw this young lady pulling out of a driveway in a minivan. Then a man comes running out of the house jumps in the passenger side and proceeds to punch her repeatedly. I was like WTF, so I turn around and caught up to the car where she skidded off the rode understandably. I pulled up and Yelled at the F''king prick and he got out of the car. I just stood there and stared at him and he just got right back in the car. I stayed there for a min and he seemed to cool down, then I looked down at the girl and she just looked at me with this look like, "Get me the hell out of here". For some reason I just took off.

    I returned no more than 2 min to check up on the situation and the car was gone.

    This is my problem, I keep seeing her face and wondering wether I should have, ripped that man a new ******* and then proceeded to shove his head up it, called the cops and/or got the girl out of there.

    I feel I should have done so much more................
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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emanon
    Here is why, and its bothering the hell out of me.

    Last saturday I was riding my motorcycle (BTW I'm glad I went with the 750!) and saw this young lady pulling out of a driveway in a minivan. Then a man comes running out of the house jumps in the passenger side and proceeds to punch her repeatedly. I was like WTF, so I turn around and caught up to the car where she skidded off the rode understandably. I pulled up and Yelled at the F''king prick and he got out of the car. I just stood there and stared at him and he just got right back in the car. I stayed there for a min and he seemed to cool down, then I looked down at the girl and she just looked at me with this look like, "Get me the hell out of here". For some reason I just took off.

    I returned no more than 2 min to check up on the situation and the car was gone.

    This is my problem, I keep seeing her face and wondering wether I should have, ripped that man a new ******* and then proceeded to shove his head up it, called the cops and/or got the girl out of there.

    I feel I should have done so much more................
    I probably would have called the police, but questioning your decision to extensively isn't going to help anything now. The reason you know the word regret is because someone did something to have it before you ever came along. :/
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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    well... I dunno.

    Sticking up for her is brave, but it could have gotten you killed. Helmets don't stop bullets very well, and vans can make mush out of a bike. (you can never know what an emotionally charged situation will produce)


    I would have gotten plate #'s and made a call to the police.

    At least have a record that the abuse occured. While she may be unable/willing to get away from the abuser, having docmented evidence may help her down the road.

    Dunno... tough one. Glad you made it out OK.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    It's not too late to call the police. If you remember the house that you drove by where the van pulled out, and the make and model of the van that's enough to at least have them check it out. It'll clear your conscience too I imagine.
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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by fr1j0l3
    well... I dunno.

    Sticking up for her is brave, but it could have gotten you killed. Helmets don't stop bullets very well, and vans can make mush out of a bike. (you can never know what an emotionally charged situation will produce)


    I would have gotten plate #'s and made a call to the police.

    At least have a record that the abuse occured. While she may be unable/willing to get away from the abuser, having docmented evidence may help her down the road.

    Dunno... tough one. Glad you made it out OK.
    Good advice. I'd definitely call the police, ask them if they had any reports of domestic violence in that area on that day and if they want your information. Make sure you've written down everything that you remember about what happened. Date, time, location, description of the guy, the girl, the car, the address that she pulled out of, and anything else you can think of...

    Don't be too disappointed if they're not interested in the information. If they don't have an active case that was opened that day on that street, they'll probably just pretend to be interested, take your info and file it with a bunch of other unimportant stuff. This sort of thing happens all the time and if the victim isn't concerned enough to report it, then the police will probably never follow up on it.

    As for what I would've done in your situation: I would've calmly approached the van and asked what the problem was. Using loud or profane language rarely helps defuse any violent situations. I know it's tough and it goes against what you are dying to do, but you have to do what's best for your own safety (and the safety of anyone you're trying to help). If I couldn't talk the guy out of the van so she could leave, I would've followed them while calling the police (maybe not so easy on a bike?). While you might think that you should've pounded the guy's face in, think about what position that would put you in. Provided that you are the victor in the fight, you now face charges of assault after this guy and his loving girlfriend (oh, yeah, unfortunately it's all too common that women don't want to leave such situations...) both tell the cops that you came out of nowhere and started hitting this guy. Next thing you know, you've got handcuffs on you and are being booked into the county jail for trying to be a hero.

    Odds are that the situation is a lot more complicated than what you saw. Who knows what happened? Call the cops, offer the information that you have, and they'll decide what needs to be done with it. There's not much else you can do.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    ya, its so hard to think of these things during the situation, but thanks for the advice. Will do.


    I just dont like it when people put their hands on women.

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    I think you did the right thing by NOT pounding the guy's face in- in fact, if you had, you may have very well brought about MORE harm to the woman after you left the scene. I cannot stress this enough- call the police, and report everything. EVERYTHING. Even if the police don't go to the guy and confront him, it sets the stage for if and when the woman makes a report on a future attack. There will be two documented cases as opposed to just her own.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emanon
    ya, its so hard to think of these things during the situation, but thanks for the advice. Will do.


    I just dont like it when people put their hands on women.
    It's not too late to do something. Like IceCold said, write down everything you can remember and call the police!

    If it's still bothering you and you don't have the address, you could go back out there and get it! If it's a home, and you have time because you can't sleep, you could carefully and discreetly watch it to see if that minivan shows back up. Write down the license plate this time and if the woman is there alone, perhaps you could talk to her and encourage her to go to the police about this... Don't do anything stupid, but there are still things that you can do to help...

    Whether your information helps or not is probably something that you will never know for sure, but at least you will know that you did the right thing to help this woman.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Time to do some (Ghost) Recon? hah, jokes aside.

    Possible, I just dont want to seem like im stalking.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    oh my god, this is a striking similarity between what happened to you and what happened to me. 2 weeks ago on sunday i was on delivery up in a dodgy area, i came around the corner on my motorbike and i spotted this lovely young girl walking along the road with flowers in her hands and a ass like you wouldnt believe. just then a black toyota corola pulled up next to her and a man in the back seat began to try to drag her in the car, i pulled up the the car jumped off the bike and smashed the guys arm then head butted him with my helmet on he fel into the car and i slammed the door on his arm and the car drove off.

    all well and good i escorted her home, just down the street, but when i went and done the delivery and came back, the car was waiting on the main road and proceeded to chase me down the street, about 11 pm so quite quiet. he almost knocked me off 3 times but i jumped the kub and began driving on the pavement (sidewalk) and then into on comming traffic. at this point i am so scared i am gagging to trow up because i notice in the back there were a further 2 more guys.

    i ended up escaping by driving the wrong way down a one way street and the car got stuck by the first car we met, i just busted a wing mirror and drove past,

    i can imagine your problem here, i was considering turinig around when i saw this happen because there was 3 of them and one of me, but i looked on and saw her struggle and all i could think of was watching crime watch and then seeing this girls face on murdered or raped. but it did take alot from me to work up to going down there, i didnt want to but and i know it sounds odd but i couldnt sleep for days because of what i saw and the chase that came with it.

    when i ggot off that bike at the end when i was back at the shop through blood preassure my nose was bleeding and i was throwing up, and for all i know it was some lame domestic. only good thing i think i brought away was she was safe and i think i broke his nose and his arm...

    what is wrong with the world, i could quite honestly say i have never dreamed of hurting a girl in any way not rape or beating it is just sick. i cant believe what i saw.. you see it on the TV but when you are face to face with it it is just horrific.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    yikes dudeman.


    Count yerself lucky yer bike didn't end up under a car.

    damn...

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Damn, suddenly my story doesnt seem so bad.


    Odd thing about mine though, I was the only person to check into what was going on. There was about 4-5 other cars that just drove by............
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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Welcome to the world....

    It's a ****ty situation for both of you, don't go bad on yourself though, you are thinking about it which shows you are human with your heart in the right place as opposed to these c*nts who pick on someone smaller/weaker/easier to take their inadequacies out on.

    Fair play to you DM, I'm glad it turned out ok. The world is one dangerous sh!th*le with some right idiots in it.

    I must be getting old. It was never like this when I was young.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by fr1j0l3
    yikes dudeman.


    Count yerself lucky yer bike didn't end up under a car.

    damn...

    i think that is what kept me up for about a week after, i just kept thinking i could be dead, if i wasnt fast enough round corners if i had missed tha one way street, a million different equations and a million different answers, most of which resulted in a highspeed accident and me laying dead or fatally wounded by the roadside.

    really scary when you think of it... but given the choice again i would go and help her out, because of what you said benny, they are picking on weaker smaller easier people... well im bigger badder and able to protect myself agains assbeff idiots.. so if i dont do anything i might aswell be helping them out.

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    Re: Im loosing sleep.

    Don't feel bad about not acting there and then, people tend to clam up in situations. There are still things you can do now, just read some of the other posts for ideas.

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