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    Player limit raised to 30?

    Is this a display error of some kind or has the player limit been raised on the server?

    http://s93152465.onlinehome.us/tglimit.jpg

    Chances are something has gone wrong, but in case it has actually been changed I would vote against the change.


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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    The slot limit on NS maps will remain at 14. If you join the server and change the map to an NS map, you'll notice (using a server browser) that the slot limit becomes 14.

    I'm experimenting with the feasibility of raising the slot limit on CO maps only. It's unlikely that the server will often fill up on CO maps with this change, but it allows members to fight great quantities of AI (which has now been upgraded) when the server is completely empty, which is more entertaining than sitting in an empty server. If the server does exceed 14 of the 30 slots on a CO map, some will get to stay for NS and some will not, with the same slot reservation accomodations taking effect as do anytime a player joins a full server.

    I've always seen CO as little more than a way to populate the map for NS.
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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    I tried adding bots before when I was solo on the server. It would only let me add one to make a 1 to 1 team ratio.

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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    This behavior was common when people used:

    say /wb add

    to add bots. You should use, from the console:

    wbmgr add

    Also, I've found a bug that occurs when you use the up arrow in the Steam console to issue the command repeatedly: Steam places a space after the word "add", which throws off the wbmgr command. I'll fix this eventually, but, in the meantime, make sure that the argument you send to wbmgr isn't followed by a space.

    If you WERE using wbmgr when the failure to add several bots occured, and you DON'T think it's due to the bug I just described, let me know.
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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    I have to say that playing against 25 bots makes it a hell of a lot more fun and challenging.

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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    I don't think advertising ourselves as a 30 player combat server is going to attract the ideal type of players.

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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    Bots were eating the server's lunch *and* dinner tonight on kestrel after you left wyz. Had 14 bots on (and I know kest is a bad map as is) and they all acted as though they had cl_updaterates of 2.

    But the knifey knife with Yellow was much fun.
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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid
    Bots were eating the server's lunch *and* dinner tonight on kestrel after you left wyz. Had 14 bots on (and I know kest is a bad map as is) and they all acted as though they had cl_updaterates of 2.

    But the knifey knife with Yellow was much fun.
    As was GLing the skulks that herded around the knifers.

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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    Is there a way for us to hide those 30 slots, and the bots occupying them, from the server browser? Sort of like we hide our 15th slot.

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    Re: Player limit raised to 30?

    We can control how many slots appear to be available on the server, but we cannot change the broadcast number of players on the server, regardless be they bots or humans. This is why, even though the server is set to "+maxplayers 32", the server is able to appear as having only 30 slots. This is also why, when the server is full, a joining player will cause the server to briefly appear to have more players than the max slots (ie: 15/14, 31/30).
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    Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Zephyr: Apophis is clearly a highly sophisticated self-aware AI construct that runs on a highly modified toaster oven in Wyzcrak's basement.

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